down to act on simple steps for people, so that they can get results. That’s what I’ve been good at and pretty much now that’s kind of one of the areas that I’m really starting to focus in now.
Mike: Is most of your money nowadays — like, you’re fulltime on the internet now, right? James: Right.
Mike: Is most of your money coming now from product creation? Or from — I guess, not from SEO but where is most of your income coming from?
James: Mostly, product creation. Right now, mostly product creation. There’s a few things that I do. One of the things that I do, I do trade in markets. So, that’s part of my income as well. But mainly, product creation. I’ll tell you the truth. Right now, I’m kind of in a transitional period where you know, being online this long and you learn some things, some things that you know how to do but just because you can’t do them, don’t mean you like to do them. You know, if I need make some money online, I can make money online. I can sell some products or something like that. I think there comes a point where, when you start to really live the purpose and you know, that’s kind of the place I find myself in now. We’re okay. I don’t want just wanted to make some money online, I wanted to do something that has meaning and value that something that will outlast me. And so, that area right now is kind of one of those I’ve got to take a leap of faith kinda thing because over here, I know this is secure, I know I can you know, create products and add the email and make some money. Over here, you know I need test and I need to figure out. I don’t even know if the market wants this. You know, and if it doesn’t, you know my kids do have to eat, my bills have to be paid. You know, that kind of thing. So, you know that’s kind of where I find myself now, kinda saying okay this over here is really powerful and close to my heart. But this over here, is comfortable. And I’m going to be honest, I am pretty much said okay, I know I can’t stay here. I’ve got to go, I’ve got to go. So, that’s pretty much where I find myself now.
Mike: Are you able to make that transition now? Are you able to — have you found anything where you can go from that money side to the I guess more of the value side, the longer lasting, create something that you can really be proud of side?
James: Yeah. Actually, I’m doing it now. It’s one of those things that you know, I have treated lightly but I think — and I know we’ll get into this part a little bit later, you know there’s so many issues that I see online and that I see with people that struggle online. And we all have challenges, no matter what level you get to, you still have challenges. But one of the things that I can think and see is you know, just this redundant cycle of you know, this failure after failure. Personally, I don’t think it has to be that way. And so, when I say this is the thing I’m reach for in a year, I think that there is a better way to build businesses online. I think that you know, you are — I think one of the main issues is when people are purchasing information. They are purchasing information based on the notion that this guy has all this houses and cars, he’s showing them all this stuff in his video and his account is showing them this and that. These guys never take into account the fact that okay, the person that they’re selling it to has a family or this person works 12 hours a days, you know this person is in community for 3 hours a day. You know, and when they get home, they’re like all tired. You know, so I think that there are better ways to build businesses but when those people purchase the information, the first problem is when you purchase it, everything is tailored to say okay, you need to do this and you need to do that, you need to do this and you need to do that. And so, by the time they can initiate to do anything, it’s two weeks that passed or you know, they’re not seeing results and then, they’re being directed to the next step. My passion now is to say okay, I want to be able to help that guy that okay, he has two kids, he has to go to work, he’s gonna be at work for 10 hours. He come home, he’s tired. You know, he needs an exercise. Like, maybe an extra hundred dollars a month in disposable income. Okay, for that guy, let me show you what you need to be doing to build a business online. You know, many take into real account that okay, this person over here, they may have to pay for the light bill this month and they don’t have money for the light bill. You know, these things are never taken into account when creating a product or really getting in that person’s shoes and that’s kind of where my passion is now. I’m going to say, listen. Okay, let’s do with the real world not this paid crap that you see on you know — I’m sorry, I shouldn’t say crap.
Mike: Crap is fine. You can say crap.
James: Alright. This pictures that you see over and over. You know, sitting on the beach, you know something like that. It’s like okay, let’s get into the real situation of you know, that grandma who needs paper mats for you know, their motherhood, they’re single mom. And she needs something to work for. That’s kinda where I’m looking now and say okay, not only will I create the training, but I’m also gonna give you tools, so then you can start right into it in just you know, walk right into it and start seeing results as quickly as possible.
Mike: You’ve recently come out with a product and I think that this might tie into kinda what you’re saying here. We didn’t — you all watching and listening, we didn’t play on this but you have your Outsource System which — why don’t you tell us a little bit about what that is.